Gundam series streams which AREN'T being blocked to Canadians lately(stream premiere dates & other things)

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Gundam series streams which AREN'T being blocked to Canadians lately(stream premiere dates & other things)

Now some good news to temporarily forget about YTV's official take-down of their anime content. Sort of.

As most of us have been aware for a while, Bandai's announced that they're doing limited-run free streams for Mobile Suit Gundam(the original series), Zeta Gundam, Gundam Wing, both Gundam SEED series, and the first season of Gundam 00(the one Gundam series which has evaded free Canadaian viewing which has been officially localized). I believe I've had a conniption fit about this problem, blaming YTV's incompetence and alleging Sunrise was pissed off royally with their cuts to SEED Destiny as to why we haven't gotten it. Could be Superchannel, could be Corus. Besides the new stream will only be EP01-26. Since it's going to be incomplete(completist talking here) I'm only interested in three of the six shows: Mobile Suit Gundam, Zeta Gundam, and Gundam Wing. I already own Gundam SEED and GSD(and Final Plus) on DVD. Bandai's going to air subs/dubs for five of the six shows, but dub only for Mobile Suit Gundam(read below as to a relatively educated guess why). This all as promotion for Gundam UC/Universal Century/Unicorn, the series of OVAs that are being released this year.

So far, Mobile Suit Gundam and Zeta Gundam are viewable up here in Canada on Crunchyroll and ANN respectively.

Bandai's official site gives a calendar of sorts as to when to expect which series, moreso than ANN's article from Monday:
http://www.b-ch.com/contents/gundam-unicorn/?xm=5&xr=13

Check the "Schedule" button, the whole stream release itenerary is there for Anime News Network, Crunchyroll and Youtube.

For those who don't want to check the grid, here's the itenerary of release dates:
=ANN video=
February 1st 2010: Zeta Gundam sub(ends on April 22nd 2010)
February 20th 2010: Mobile Suit Gundam dub, Gundam SEED sub(ends April 22nd 2010)
April 22nd 2010: Gundam SEED Destiny sub(ends May 30th 2010)

=Crunchyroll=
February 1st 2010: Mobile Suit Gundam dub(ends April 22nd 2010)
February 20th 2010: Zeta Gundam sub, Gundam 00 Season 1 sub(ends April 22nd 2010)
March 25th 2010: Gundam Wing sub(ends May 30th 2010)

=Youtube=
February 20th 2010: Mobile Suit Gundam and Zeta Gundam dub(ends March 25th 2010)
March 25th 2010: Gundam 00 Season 1 and Gundam SEED dub(ends April 22nd 2010)
April 22nd 2010: Gundam Wing and Gundam SEED Destiny dub(ends May 30th 2010)

If you've not seen either of the first two series, you have until late March to see them (dubbed at least) without having to fork over wads of cash. Of these six offered shows, I had only seen Gundam SEED
(and Destiny). Matter of fact, Gundam SEED was the last show of the original 2004-05 YTV Bionix shows that I watched. Since the first two series streamed are from the Universal Century, and I prefer watching timeline-specific shows in order, I picked Mobile Suit Gundam first for watching online.

For those who shelled out the cash for the DVDs, the Gundam Original Series and Zeta Gundam streams are the same as the ones on the DVDs:
-ANN, Crunchyroll and Youtube are only airing the dub for the original Mobile Suit Gundam. This is probably because the original Japanese version has never been released in subbed form officially in either North America or Europe. For purists, that means one episode is missing - EP17 in the original order, IIRC. The episode never got dubbed by Ocean Group, and the reasons behind this have never been disclosed.

-Similar to all of it's current North American/European DVD releases, Zeta Gundam won't have the original OP and ED music due to music licencing troubles(fervent in a lot of 1970s-1980s series worldwide, even now in 2010 - royalties, various other huge troubles). Justin evakis has confirmed this on ANN's boards. He has also confirmed that the subtitled version will be using the original Japanese script and not those infamous 'dubtitles'(dubbed version script being used for the subtitles, glorified closed-captioning from what I understand) used on some of the earlier DVD releases.

With the exception of the forthcoming Gundam Unicorn/Universal Century/UC OVA series, these are I believe the only full-length series from the Universal Century timeline(the first Gundam timeline) to be officially released in North America/Europe at the moment. This does not count stand-alone sequel OVAs, movie retellings(glorified revisionist clip shows), and so on. The other two full-length series from the Universal Century timeline - 1986's Gundam ZZ(1986) and 1993's Victory Gundam - have never been released officially outside of Japan. Bandai should really look into their own backcatalog if there's no new shows worth picking up (after they eventually release Code Geass R2 and Gundam 00 Season 2). Or if there's no shows from the past five years which Funimation or ViZ haven't gotten the rights to.

Source: Bandai official site(for complete stream schedule), Justin Sevakis's ANN posts about the subs and music complications for Zeta Gundam)

So far, I'm liking The Original Series(when I posted this I was at EP11). This is the first time I've actually seriously coined the term "The Original Series" for something that's not Star Trek(even though every anime fan should know Gundam is essentially Trek's Japanese equivalent). Prior to now, I'd only watched Gundam SEED. The similarities to the two series's basic plot development(early on) are there, but only in how they initally progress. Having seen both series, I can now see why people crticize SEED for it's similarities to the original on this point. But only with how the story progresses at the start, and how that the main antagonist wears a mask. The characters and the story themselves are entirely different. Besides when the respective ships(White Base in Original, Archangel in SEED) get to Earth they no longer follow the parallel story-progession setup.
Both have an anti-war message, but this one's more implied, not as in-your-face with SEED(which had more angst, agony, pink-haired j-pop singer princesses named Lacus Clyne, lead protagonist actually having sexual relations in one ep, and so on). In in the episodes so far from the Original Series which I've watched, the anti-war comments are just brief and to the point. Oh how I've missed old-school hand-drawn animation. And the combination of orchestras with synthesizer, electric guitar/bass, and basic rock-style drumkit/e-drums.




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Unfortunately they seem to be treating it more like a TV schedule and have a specific cut-off date. So one has to watch the whole series within that time and it looks as if they might release it as one episode a day.


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The fact that they have a cut-off date nullifies this as a form of "progress", as far as I'm concerned.

And why do you keep going on about distributors being pissed off about YTV making edits? That makes absolutely no sense.


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I honestly don't know why I keep bitching about YTV's ridiculous practices either. It must be a futile attempt to vent my frustrations about the aforementioned Gundam 00 stream blackouts, using YTV's edits as a scapegoat for a situation which cannot be explained. My apologies for blurting it out, moreso if it appears as if I was trolling the pointless statement.

While I'm pleased I have three 'new' old anime shows I can watch legit freely(as I said above, I'd only seen the two SEED series upto now for the Gundam franchise) I agree they should keep the shows on full-time and not implement a "only available for a limited time" routine for these streams. Reminds me of Disney's "limited time" system for most of their classic animated films on DVD and VHS.




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Victory, ZZ along with GundamX and Turn-A are always going to be seen as "failures" in the eyes of Bandai because of low model/merch sales related to the series at the time of their airing over there. It's part of the reason why SEED will never die because people are still buying the kits and what not over in Japan today.

The chances of them being dubbed and/or released on DVD in North America is slim to none at this point. I will say that of those four that ZZ has the best shot since it's the story in between Zeta and Char's counter-attack so it only makes sense for it to be the one.


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Well, I'll be watching Zeta, at least. Seems like it's arguably the best Gundam title, and I've been interested in it for quite some time.

Not to mention that there's a time limit on its streaming, and given my general reluctance to watch most things nowadays, it's now or never!

I've been trying to make a habit of watching one episode a day. That will inevitably fail due to my school schedule next week, though this one might be a keeper for me.


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@Theodormin: Ah, right...the merchandizing. I was just generally musing about how the shows could get an English release, not taking into account the merchandizing aspect as well for international distribution. That's what happens when you get older...one tends to forget about the merchandising factor with a show like this :P. I'm 24, I turn 25 on June 9th.

I've been reading up on ANN's boards that Zeta has a bad dub...just how 'bad' is it? It might speed up my marathon run for the original series if I know ahead of time. I have a penchance to go for dubs, but I can work with subs, either if a dub's non-existant/unavaialble or if the dub's really bad in the eyes(or ears?) of more than just the 'sub-only' fanbase.




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Zeta's dub is workable. It's the quality of other Blue Water dubs. It's not Odex bad, but it's not their best work either. It's just what you would expect from a low budget Calgary dub.


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Primus wrote:
Zeta's dub is workable. It's the quality of other Blue Water dubs. It's not Odex bad, but it's not their best work either. It's just what you would expect from a low budget Calgary dub.

Seconded. From the few episodes I've seen it's not the best but it could always be worse. The biggest issue I've always heard of from Gundam fans is the change with the op and end (though I've heard they put them back in for the anime legends dvd sets) since the fanbase considers Zeta to be the be all and end all of all the Gundam Series.

Kefka_Pallazo wrote:
@Theodormin: Ah, right...the merchandizing. I was just generally musing about how the shows could get an English release, not taking into account the merchandizing aspect as well for international distribution. That's what happens when you get older...one tends to forget about the merchandising factor with a show like this :P. I'm 24, I turn 25 on June 9th.

Well, Gundam is just nothing but a big commercial for Model kits and action figures. ;)


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Granted, but I don't take it as such when a lot of the merchandise can only be purchased online or at your local comic store which happens to have anime import merchandise. So it's not all toys to me for this series strictly because of this reason. I'm just more inclined to judging the Gundam franchise's various series solely for the content of the shows themselves, not just for the market appeal for the toys.

Anyways finished Gundam Original last night. What I liked about the finale:
-The White Base crew destroying virtually everything. The Guntank, Guncannon, the G-Fighter, even White Base and ultimatley the Gundam itself, piece by piece(quite literally for Gundam).
-Char blasting off Cecilia's head(very much literally, the scene's only about 1-2 seconds but the shot went right through her head) outside of the bridge of her ship. Is it revealed as to how Char escaped(making way for his appearance in Zeta)? Just asking.

Now onto business:
-The streams of Gundam 00 on Crunchyroll are now available without region blocks. Better late than never, I suppose. This makes me feel even more like an idiot/ass for saying Sunrise and Bandai were deliberatley blocking the show Canadians because of YTV's edits to Destiny. I apologize wholeheartedly again for mouthing off about that. It was just rage about things I wasn't aware of fully; that and YTV/Nick Canada Beta has become an easy target these days. The copyright issues haven't been solved for Youtube however, as Bandai's original uploads there are still blocked to Canadian IPs.
-As we all know SEED's sub and the dub of Original Series is up on Anime News Network. It started last week, before the February 20th start date. I have to hand it to ANN - they get things done ahead of schedule.
-Youtube's coming around nicely, as Zeta's up on Youtube - all 50 episodes of the dub are up all at once(it's part of Youtube Shows/Youtube's "Hulu Envy" as Pep once called it), same goes for the Original Series. Just putting the links here, since I haven't been able to find them on Youtube's "Youtube Shows" listings. They are, however, on Bandai/Sunrise's 'AnimeChannel' account over on Youtube(link: www.youtube.com/AnimeChannel).

The dub for Zeta is alright so far(have only watched EP01). Better than I had expected. I'd watched the first half of Zeta's first ep subbed, but then I decided to do the whole 'watch first series then the second' routine after skimming Wikipedia's articles for the first two series.




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Kefka_Pallazo wrote:

Is it revealed as to how Char escaped(making way for his appearance in Zeta)? Just asking.

No, just implied that he did and he went underground in the time between MSG and Zeta.

He's not even spoken of during 0083 despite that taken place in between MSG and Zeta.


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Actually, it's somewhat revealed in the first volume of Char's Deleted Affair. Although, that manga follows the movie continuity. So M'Quve is still alive.


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