Pretty Cure to run on YTV in early 2009
by Bosstard:
YTV will be airing the hit magical girl series Pretty Cure in early 2009.
I don't know if I should be happy or sad about it. Hopefully it was not localized as you could guess in this article.
If I can have uncut DVD's I will be happy.
EDIT: I think this is fantastic news. Even if it does wind up being localized a little bit, it's a great program to be run for younger audiences in earlier hours. Almost brings things full circle with Sailor Moon's initial success. - Pep
It's nice to see that non-Viz anime is being put on YTV. Maybe there's hope for Gundam 00 making it there yet.
It's also goes to show with this pickup that YTV has truly decided to go after that "tween"/hannah montana crowd given the general plot of this one.
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Well, this is interesting.
I don't know if I should be happy or sad about it.
Hopefully it was not localized as you could guess in this article
http://www.c21media.net/resources/detail.asp?area=79&article=46595
hopefully that article is wrong.If I can have uncut DVD's I will be happy.
After having seen pretty much ALL of YTV's anime that have been targeted to and localized for children, I've come to expect a few things:
- Localized Western names
- different Opening and Ending themes from the original
- different background music (though with some series not having a fansubbed version, it's not really easy to verify and I'm usually not bothered with that anyways)
As long as the main story and plot is kept intact and not severely edited (like One Piece and Idaten Jump, minor edits like in Pokemon and Naruto are fine), then I can bear having no original theme songs and character names. Though you'd think that changing names isn't necessary, with series like Bakugan and Idaten Jump being able to keep virtually ALL the names intact, and it doesn't seem like that affected Bakugan's popularity or anything.
Since YTV is getting this directly to Toei, I don't think we'll be seeing DVDs until somebody actually picks this up.
This is an interesting situation, since such a thing hasn't happened since Sailor Moon, if I remember correctly.
It's nice to see that non-Viz anime is being put on YTV. Maybe there's hope for Gundam 00 making it there yet.
It's still a series that's targeted towards children, though it's been a while since we've gotten a non-Viz/4Kids/Pokemon title, so I'm fine with it. I'm willing to give any title a shot anyways, teen-oriented or not.
I've seen the first 12 episodes of Max Heart (the sequel series of this season) and the first eight episodes of Splash Star (the first spin-off series), and I liked what I saw. So barring it being banished to an early-morning time slot (damn you YTV for "shafting" Yu-Gi-Oh! GX this way) from the get-go, I'll make an attempt to watch it.
It's also goes to show with this pickup that YTV has truly decided to go after that "tween"/hannah montana crowd given the general plot of this one.
If that was the case, I'd think that they would have picked up Viz's Kirarin Revolution by now.
I wonder if this show can revitalize shojo anime's popularity on TV, or at least on Canadian TV. If any title had to be picked to try and do so, the Pretty Cure franchise would be it.
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This is fantastic news! I hope it does well with younger kids, assuming it airs in earlier hours.
It would be great if Toei keeps localization to a minimum. Of course, even if they don't, Pretty Cure is such a long series that there will be room for improvement later on down the line if it is successful with its target.
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It would be very funny if the show got a Toronto dub, with a phone-in job by Stephanie Beard.
And since this is directly from Toei, it raises the question, WHERE IS ONE PIECE?
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Can't say I'd be surprised if there was a Toronto dub, since YTV is closely involved.
Like Buster Blader 126; I don't mind minimal localization. People are throwing tantrums in the ANN thread over the name changes like it's THE END OF THE WORLD. Name changes are the most minor thing. At least they kept them somewhat close to the original names.
I hope they keep the majority of the storyline and characters intact (like the later seasons of SM). Name changes and music changes are insignificant.
This could be the start of more girl-oriented programming and has the potential to be a huge success. I'm glad to see more balance in target gender.
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Actually, I feel that music changes would be fairly significant. Sailor Moon wasn't a big deal since, in many cases, the recomposed music was actually better than what was in the original. But in most cases, a change in music can be devastating since it fundamentally alters the nature of the series.
Since the last localization Toei did themselves retained the original music (Sailor Moon S and Super S), I think we can expect the same for Pretty Cure.
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With name changes, I wouldn't be surprised if they re-did songs with Japanese lyrics. (even just to give English lyrics but keep the same music)
Naruto started with an English theme, but that was later changed. I could see the same type of thing happen with Pretty Cure.
It would probably be most cost-effective to retain the original music, and I think most people would prefer that. But if the first opening theme has English lyrics, I certainly won't be screaming that they've ruined things.
It depends how it's handled of course, and I haven't watched the series yet, so I'm not sure how integral the music is. I do hope the names end up being the only noticeable change.
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Having not watched Pretty Cure, and having little interest in it (Sorry, pirate shonen adventures are more my thing) I can't really know, but does Pretty Cure feature lyrical songs in Japanese? Toei could pull a FUNimation with the GT sets and dub the opening and endings.
Does anyone think that if Pretty Cure does well that YTV will pick up Power Puff Girls Z (Jeeze, apparently Toei likes the letter "Z"), while its' dub has had less then tremendous reception (due to localization), it is based on a show YTV aired. And it's a Canadian dub to boot.
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It would be very funny if the show got a Toronto dub, with a phone-in job by Stephanie Beard.And since this is directly from Toei, it raises the question, WHERE IS ONE PIECE?
Is it possible Nelvana is providing the dub? Being owned by Corus, they handle all of Teletoon's dubbings.
EDIT: And how kiddy is Pretty Cure? Is it aimed at the same audience as Hamtaro or Sailor Moon? If the latter, this is great news for YTV; its target female anime audience is all but non-existant.
This could be what's replacing Zatch Bell and/or Blue Dragon. In some ways maybe YTV needs to dump it's anime (although I can't see them dropping Naruto or Bleach) and start fresh. But most anime fans are usually familar with the show long before it reaches TV, so no matter what the do there will always be some anime fans who would have already seen the show and wouldn't watch.
[cite]With name changes, I wouldn't be surprised if they re-did songs with Japanese lyrics. (even just to give English lyrics but keep the same music)
Naruto started with an English theme, but that was later changed. I could see the same type of thing happen with Pretty Cure.[/cite]
They're only likely to use Japanese if the show is aired during Bionix, since those viewers know what they're getting. But it would seem strange for Japanese titles to air during daytime.
[cite]...its target female anime audience is all but non-existant.[/cite]
Yet they still run maxi-pad ads during Bionix.
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I remember watching episodes of Rurouni Kenshin where the intro song was dubbed, and then a few episodes later (like, within the first 26 episodes, I think) the intro song was in it's original Japanese. Personally, I thought the Japanese *sounded* better, even though I couldn't understand the language. But I'm kinda interested to know why they switched to the original language after starting with a dubbed song...
As for maxi-pads during Bionix, some might find it interesting to know that many girls watch/read 'shounen' series'. (It's just guys that seem to run away from the thought of reading a 'girls' book, regardless of how much they might enjoy it.)
I remember reading somewhere that a guy was reading a series in a shounen anthology, and enjoying it quite a bit. When the series came out in it's own collected volumes, the guy was complaining bitterly because he found out it was a 'shoujo' series. His complaint? That the company put a story that he 'wasn't supposed to read' in a shounen anthology. Obviously, he missed the little fact that 'shounen' and 'shoujo' are simply *the target audience the company is marketing the story too.* It doesn't mean that the story is *written* for girls, or that girls are exclusively the only audience that's *supposed* to read it. It just means that the company thought they'd make the most money off of it by targeting the marketing toward girls.
Guys like that, I roll my eyes at.
And for anyone who complains about localization or edits: Something I learned from One Piece is that an audience can tell a good story from a bad one, regardless of what language it's in. If the dub sucks, people will know it, and respond in kind. Sure, it doesn't help spread the love of the story, and convincing people that the *real* story is good might be a huge challenge after a bad dub, but don't complain about the dub if it's good enough for people to like it. Just be thankful that it's not leaving a negative impression on audiences' minds.
Running ads for feminine products doesn't mean they make a point of targeting shows to females. I've always considered those more as "we don't know where else to put it" and "maybe women will be watching with their kids," in addition to trying to appeal to a crossover audience.
some might find it interesting to know that many girls watch/read 'shounen' series'. (It's just guys that seem to run away from the thought of reading a 'girls' book, regardless of how much they might enjoy it.)
I think in this forum, most of us are open to watching a variety of shows. So really, not a surprise.
But YTV has aired little that is targeted toward females since SM, and I think they've been missing out on profits because of that. I want to see a better balance in their programming. And I think girls need some escapism just as much as boys do.
I'm very happy to hear about a new shoujo series. I hope it does well and encourages YTV to add something else in contrast to the shounen action series.
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For the record, this is the first time in a long time that I've felt truly excited for a new anime premiere on YTV. Pretty Cure's reputation is pretty notorious among anime fans so YTV made a great choice in getting this show from Toei.
Although, I can't help but wonder if YTV tried to ask for the Sailor Moon license back only to be turned down and took Pretty Cure as a substitute?
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Any new anime on YTV is worth checking out. I'll be definitely tuning in, for the first few episodes at least.
Whether it's been edited in any way doesn't really matter to me. If I feel or know it's been edited I'll just watch it again online in it's original form.
I am quite curious as to where this show is going to wind up airing. Not necessarily because it 'wouldn't fit' Bionix, but because the show would likely have a much harder time being a success there, given how boy-centric Saturday nights seem to be now.
Is there anywhere else the show could even fit that isn't already filled with Nick shows? Weekday evenings? Saturday afternoons along with Pokemon? Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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I'm thinking in the afternoons, perhaps with Pokemon. I'd dare say The Zone (hey, roughly the same time slot that Sailor Moon got back in the '90s, but I don't know when that Spongbob/Fairly Oddparents iron-lock will ever be broken.
All I hope is that it won't be shafted(?) to a morning time slot.
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YTV needs a weekday anime to get people interested again. Running the show once a week isn't going to do it. With the sequel series, Pretty Cure would be about 96 episodes long, and there's a new series coming out next year, so they could try it with this show.
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I'm not really concerned with when they play it because if people want to see it bad enough, they will. I myself set video tapes to record shows that are on ungodly hours at least twice a week.
The only thing I'm extremely concerned about is whether they will play the series in it's entirety or not. It's happened at least twice before when YTV inexplicably removed shows that I was enjoying and well invested in. The removal of MAR and Case Closed has left me bitter and very slow to trust anything or anyone ever since then. Perhaps I have stable grounds to sue for emotional trauma...
Anyways, I would just prefer to show the program, no matter what or how good it is, in its entirety.
The only thing I'm extremely concerned about is whether they will play the series in it's entirety or not. It's happened at least twice before when YTV inexplicably removed shows that I was enjoying and well invested in. The removal of MAR and Case Closed has left me bitter and very slow to trust anything or anyone ever since then. Perhaps I have stable grounds to sue for emotional trauma...Anyways, I would just prefer to show the program, no matter what or how good it is, in its entirety.
or if they move the program without warning or announcement and don't bother to post the date and time the show is being moved to like they did with Escaflowne, Gundam wing, Zoids, etc..
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First off, It's nice to see that Toronto anime dubbing is not dead!
Nagisa=Natalie
Honoka=Hannah.....I don't have a problem with that.
As long as try to stick to the original story as much as possible, I'll be happy and if they can the original themes, that would rock.
This way they can get some new fans to awaken them to anime like Sailor Moon did back in the day.
Now if there's a Godly person programming at the Y, They'll shunt Blue Dragon over to Crunch and put Pretty cure at 8pm on Bionix and shift Naruto to 8:30pm but that's just my dream.
Having it on BFF? Not a bad idea...Until "The Next Star" comes along and swallows up the whole time slot and Pretty Cure is screwed over.
As for The Zone....enhhhhh that's a strike!
and for the love of OTAKUS, I pray that the Y actually promos it. but In the event they won't, We have got to get the word out and give Pretty Cure a chance to spread.
We can't depend on YTV's promo dept on this one because this might be our last chance. and I for one is going to
do my part. Creative people, let's get to work!
I for one is going to give Precure a chance because it's from Toei and NOT from 4kids.
P.S. The reason why they're spewin' venom over at ANN, One Word. JEALOUSY!
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It seems with their shift they've dropped the early Friday slot, or at least that's the way the schedule read.
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Yeah they dropped all of the regular Friday timeslots for the summer. The early timeslot was good because it was kids were up etting ready for school, but now kids are sleeping in. Notice their entire weekday lineup has been changed. Pretty cure with a weekday run may show it has been a success.
Prety Cure needs a weekday run if they hope to get through all the episodes for all the series. There's over 140 episodes just for the first three series and I believe they're still making them.
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